Climate Discussions

Here we explore a variety of discussions on Climate Change,
what to do, and explore in depth what is really going on.
It’s complicated.
It is our hope at Heart Plan Vision,
that the name calling cease, and we discuss the big picture of climate chaos,
in sane, honest and well researched ways.
Our quality of life here on Earth is what is at stake.
Thank you.

 

In essence …. those that resist the current “narrative” on climate change believe that ….

The climate change debate is more about ‘control of the masses’ and really not about science.  This implies the ‘global elite’ have the agenda to impose political and economic controls on the population.  The ‘divide and conquer’ strategy plays out well by dividing the population against itself.  The division being between (1) some who believe in man-made global warming and (2) some who believe it is more a galactic influence, i.e. divide and conquer.

And there are those that claim, from the climate scientists perspective …

Evidence of natural climate variability is not evidence of a lack of human input into the climate system. When climate scientists discuss evidence for anthropocentric changes in the climate system, they do not simultaneously argue that there are no natural causes of variation in the climate system. (Snopes)

 

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Here are links under our “Climate Chaos” sector
Links to individual pages that explore a range of factors in the climate chaos debate

Climate Chaos

Climate Discussions – this page

Fires!
Global Warming a Hoax?
Grand Solar Minimum
Native Elders Warnings
Natural Climate Solutions
Forests as Natural Climate Solution
Project Drawdown
Redirecting Investments
What is GeoEngineering
Youth Activism on Climate

 

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The Great Academic Purge of Skeptical Climate Scientists – David Icke
“Climate Tyranny to Real Scientists: Don’t Expose our Lies or We Will Destroy You”
13 minute video

 

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Global Climate Action: A 3 Part Series by Otto Scharmer
A Rich Source to Study in Depth – we just link to the source here

Bringing state-of-the-art systems change methods to the evolution of new social architecture

Discussed in this 3 part series
Soil
Democracy
Consciousness

Global Climate Action I: The Power of Soil
Otto Scharmer

Global Climate Action II: The Power of Direct Democracy
Otto Scharmer

Global Climate Action III: The Power of Consciousness
Otto Scharmer

 

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In an effort to demonstrate how ‘loaded’ a topic Climate Chaos is …
it is interesting and helpful to Fact Check information in articles.

An example below …..   Earth’s Orbit causing Climate Change ….
and countered with response from 3 sources of Fact Checks.
I lead first with the Fact Checks, scroll down below to see the 2 articles referenced.

 

Climate Feedback is a non-partisan, non-profit organization dedicated to science education. Our reviews are crowdsourced directly from a community of scientists with relevant expertise. We strive to explain whether and why information is or is not consistent with the science and to help readers know which news to trust.

 

Earth’s Orbit Cannot Explain Modern Climate Change  (articles are below)

SOURCE: , , 30 Aug. 2019 (article is posted below)

DETAILS
Flawed Reasoning : Earth’s orbital cycles are 20,000 years long—or longer. They cannot explain global warming occurring over a single century.
Factually Inaccurate : Measurements show that incoming solar radiation has not increased over the last century to drive rising temperatures. Instead, greenhouse gas emissions are responsible.

 

Snopes Fact Check

CLAIM:  NASA “admitted” that climate change occurs naturally as a result of changes in Earth’s solar orbit and not anthropogenic factors.

This story was picked up by the website Natural News, where it gained further virality. One of the more telling approaches for outlets that promote a specific brand of climate-change denial is to report as news their “discovery” of something that, while perhaps new to them, is fundamental to the field of climate science and in no way in conflict with the concept of anthropocentric climate change.

When climate scientists discuss evidence for anthropocentric changes in the climate system, they do not simultaneously argue that there are no natural causes of variation in the climate system. Asserting that would be a straw-man argument. Evidence of natural climate variability is not evidence of a lack of human input into the climate system. That is, however, the sole premise both the Natural News and Hal Turner posts work with, per Natural News.

 

Lead Stories – Just Because it is Trending Does Not Mean It is True
Hoax Alert.  Fake News:  NASA Does NOT Admit Climate Change Occurs Because of Changes In Earth’s Solar Orbit, Not Because of SUVs and Fossil Fuels
by Alan Duke   Sept 2019

 

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And here are 2 articles that were published, regarding NASA, that triggered the Fact Checks response. 

 

NASA admits that climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar orbit,
and NOT because of SUVs and fossil fuels
Article by Ethan Huff and published in Natural News  August 2019

“For more than 60 years, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has known that the changes occurring to planetary weather patterns are completely natural and normal. But the space agency, for whatever reason, has chosen to let the man-made global warming hoax persist and spread, to the detriment of human freedom.

It was the year 1958, to be precise, when NASA first observed that changes in the solar orbit of the earth, along with alterations to the earth’s axial tilt, are both responsible for what climate scientists today have dubbed as “warming” (or “cooling,” depending on their agenda). In no way, shape, or form are humans warming or cooling the planet by driving SUVs or eating beef, in other words.

But NASA has thus far failed to set the record straight, and has instead chosen to sit silently back and watch as liberals freak out about the world supposedly ending in 12 years because of too much livestock, or too many plastic straws.”

 

 

NASA: “Climate Change” and Global Warming caused by Changes in Earth’s Solar Orbit and Axial Tilt – Not Man-Made Causes
Hal Turner Radio Show – August 8 2019
Note:  unable to get link active – so go to: halturnerradioshow.com and search site for above show

“Everything you have been told about “Climate Change” and man-made “Global Warning” has been a deliberate LIE, perpetrated by people who stood to make Billions by duping the public, and NASA has known about this since 1958 – but let the LIE propagate nonetheless.

On its Earth Observatory web site, NASA published in the year 2000, the information they possessed about the Milankovitch Climate Theory, which was PROVED to be fact by core samples from the earth’s seas. Climate Changes – warming and destructive weather – happen naturally from changes in earth’s solar orbit, and the extent of earth’s axis tilt. NOT from man-induced factors!”

 

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The following is an interesting discourse, along with Collective Evolution giving their input. 

 

Professor Jordan Peterson on climate change and climate policy at Cambridge Union

Professor Jordan Peterson explains why the world won’t unite to solve the complex issue of climate change.

 

Collective Evolution Podcast reviews Jordan Peterson thoughts on Climate Change

Joe Martino
A helpful discourse on looking at deeper systemic issues at play here
Some key notes outlined from this excellent podcast

New technologies on horizon are meant for an evolved society. 
Solution required is we must change WITHIN.
Solutions need to come from a new state of mind of an evolving consciousness and being.

In a rigid world where systems are so complex, you cannot bring in new solutions.
Brand new solutions require FLUIDITY, allowing for change and shifts to occur easily.
Our current consciousness is very rigid and ‘me’ based, ‘take care of me’.

Narrative on Co2 is a political tool so people can play out their individual agendas.
Beyond Co2, the fact is we pollute our planet in major ways, and we don’t need to be doing that.

Instead of discussing how there is an ever increasing toxicity of our environment – we talk about Co2, which is not the problem.

How about we discuss the problem of pollution and how to address those problems.

It’s about pollution, not climate change.  Climate is going to change. 

Some extremely big factors that are not discussed in main scientific narrative –
they need to be included in the big picture assessment.

Sun cycles, Solar cycles
Off planetary things that are happening, other planets are warming

 

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“Climate Crisis Pushing Earth to a ‘Global Tipping Point’, Researchers Say”

“The Earth is heading toward a ‘global tipping point’ if the climate crisis continues on its current path, scientists have warned, as they called for urgent action to avoid ‘an existential threat to civilization.’

The group of researchers, who published a commentary in the journal Nature, say there is growing evidence to suggest that irreversible changes to the Earth’s environmental systems are already taking place, and that we are now in a ‘state of planetary emergency.'”    Nov 2019